{"id":2808,"date":"2019-12-09T23:06:03","date_gmt":"2019-12-09T23:06:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/journalismthatmatters.org\/dc\/?page_id=2808"},"modified":"2019-12-09T23:06:03","modified_gmt":"2019-12-09T23:06:03","slug":"education-that-matters","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/journalismthatmatters.org\/dc\/education-that-matters\/","title":{"rendered":"Education that Matters"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Journalism That Matters: Education That Matters<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>This session was held at George Washington University Cafitz Conference Center on Aug. 8, 2007 as part of the Journalism That Matters convening. It was convened by Peggy Kuhr, dean of the University of Montana journalism school. Participants focused generally on the question &#8220;What do we tell the students&#8221; &#8211; initiated by Peggy. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"413\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/journalismthatmatters.org\/dc\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/515\/2019\/12\/Peskin-Tree.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2809\" srcset=\"https:\/\/journalismthatmatters.org\/dc\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/515\/2019\/12\/Peskin-Tree.jpg 413w, https:\/\/journalismthatmatters.org\/dc\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/515\/2019\/12\/Peskin-Tree-248x300.jpg 248w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 413px) 100vw, 413px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Summary Questions<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Is J a Craft, Profession, act (of living) or all three?<\/li><li>J education \u2013 why bother? This work is vital<\/li><li>What about value added?<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Summary Observations<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>J-school= center of skills and experiences<\/li><li>Be a better communicator<\/li><li>Grounding in ethics<\/li><li>Community Management<\/li><li>A role in giving a voice to many (lead public discourse)<\/li><li>Media literacy<\/li><li>Be a part of the storytellers<\/li><li>Remember how important accreditation and making a living is<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p>Discussion about the professional vs. amateur role of journalists and how that affects teaching.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Is there still a role for professional journalist? Journalism educators need to think about citizen management and encouragement.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Need to have professionals that know about something more than just to communicate.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It may be more useful to look at journalism as a craft.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(Rough notes, Andrew MacRae AMacRae@get-involved.org) Journalism is something that people do, &#8220;like teaching kids to look both ways before crossing the street&#8221;. It does not require professionals teachers<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Hopes that the Professional exists to get a paycheck&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>multiculturalism is an important part of Journalism.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When we teach students what are we pushing?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>@&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.newstrust.net\/\">NewsTrust.net<\/a>&nbsp;train new journalists, but also basic media literacy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Students are not being taught to manage news in a gift economy&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>From a university perspective, what are universities lacking? Community management skills are necessary in addition to defined skill sets (Dreameaver, flash, etc).&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The importance of thinking about journalism as a craft annunciates that Journalism is a living one. Professionalism sets up an us vs. them approach.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We really need to reevaluate the skills we are teaching &#8211; &#8211; &#8211;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Get people excited about the act or craft of journalism, instead of getting them excited about the specifics of being editors, authors, etc.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Journalism does not have a monopoly on its skills &#8211; perhaps relying on an interdisciplinary model.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Young Alum from schools feel as if they have a good skill set, but need to know more about the financial side.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>William &#8211; said that as an admin he would be very hard to sell on the idea that he<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><br>Ellen Scully-Russ (ems2104@columbia.edu)- very rough notes &#8211; mostly pertaining to the discussion of the shifting division of labor in the journalistic social activity and the impliciations for who teaches what to whom<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Professionalization vs the Amateuration of Journalism<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Are there other professions where there a lots of amateurs claiming professional or occupational jurisdiction?&nbsp;<\/li><li>Naturalization and integration of J into daily life\u2013 communications skills for everyone<\/li><li>J school teach people to take on defined roles \u2013 Journalist, photojournalist \u2013 but those roles do not reflect the real world jobs<\/li><li>Important that we teach everyone to be better of the act of J<\/li><li>Something that people can do \u2013 does not have to be professional just like people teach children all the time but not all are \u2018teachers\u2019<\/li><li>Young people in J school today want to be professionals \u2013 but they do not necessarily want to be journalists and even less want to be newsprint journalists&nbsp;<\/li><li>What is the role of media literacy? Can the public recognize quality journalism \u2013 part of being a citizen is to break down the lines between news journalists and citizens \u2013 educate people to be the gatekeepers?&nbsp;<\/li><li>Train journalists to be good citizens&nbsp;<\/li><li>Hard for professionals to let go of their role and jurisdiction in the social division of labor because professional trade money for status \u2013 professionalization offers individuals status in society&nbsp;<\/li><li>What is the role of the professional J in new media\/social media? No longer shoe leather reporting \u2013 you can be a professional J and not do the writing that J is doing now \u2013 work with the public and manage the community \u2013 citizen management is a new aspect of the journalistic profession &#8211; this is what the J schools should be teaching \u2013 I learn tools in J school but they are not a mindset to manage them.&nbsp;<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Teaching people to be J \u2013 do skills and expertise equate&nbsp;<\/li><li>Having professionals who know something other then how to communicate \u2013 expertise in a subject that they are writing about&nbsp;<\/li><li>J as a Craft v profession \u2013 lot of journalists learn by doing and have not been to J school \u2013 craft workers learn their craft by participating in extensive apprenticeships \u2013 you can do a lot of damage if you are not aware of craft standards and practices and this is also true in journalism \u2013 we can learn a lot from practicing journalists, for example how to understand the media, how to write \u2013 teaching others to do this&nbsp;<\/li><li>Shifting division of labor \u2013 and effects on what J school teach and who they teach<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Re-evaluate where the jobs are for example \u2013 community manager \u2013 there is actual work there and are J students being prepared for this \u2013 don\u2019t necessarily to get students excited about being a reporter \u2013 but the act of journalism and the various jobs they can do with journalistic skills Are journalists the only ones who are required to communicate &#8211; the core basics of gathering and presenting info and many occupations need to learn to do this \u2013 J does not have a monopoly on their core skills \u2013 this leads to the question of mindset &#8211; are journalists the only ones who should adhere to journalistic practices and standards \u2013 teaching others the j mindset \u2013 how to look at information and reporting from a Journalistic perspective \u2013 is there a role for J schools in teaching other professions Journalism skills&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>The flip side of the is discussion are what other skills are required by journalists that we do not teach at J school \u2013 team leadership, financial skills<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>What is the value added of J skills to students and society?<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>What about the First Amendment\u2013 who will protect this if the press goes away \u2013 what role will citizen j play in protecting the basic right?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Midel U is now all J school . . . J schools have taken a narrow focus and what we need is teach info gather skills to anyone who wants to participate in the public discourse&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Skills based discussion \u2013 also need to include the identity and enrollment in a community of practice \u2013 this is what animates and excite students \u2013 very few 18 year olds are motivated by the image of the journalist who stands up to the state \u2013 they associate this with politics and this does not animate them \u2013 if we are going to motive students to journalism we have to wrap it in a different ethos&nbsp;<\/li><li>How to enroll the students in the ethos of the profession \u2013 partner with a press organization and give students exposure to the profession \u2013 get them to see their name in print<\/li><li>The lack of student animation for the profession resonates with a j student in the crowd \u2013 we are not excited about standing up to the man \u2013 old model one journalist asking tough questions of the man \u2013 I represent the public \u2013 our generation gets excited about gathering the public so that the crowd can speak to the man \u2013 who speaks truth to power \u2013 on line communities \u2013 face book \u2013 if you can convince these communities that they can matter in speaking to power they will participate&nbsp;<\/li><li>What about our J school accreditation if we are talking about expanding our curriculum and expanding our programs to the include other groups<\/li><\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Journalism That Matters: Education That Matters This session was held at George Washington University Cafitz Conference Center on Aug. 8, 2007 as part of the Journalism That Matters convening. 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